New wire question

[vapervince]

You must have lungs like organ bellows

 

[Deadanddripping]

see i usually take big long puffs. sometimes i hit the ten second safety stop thing.

That's crazy! I'd be turning blue

I just do 2-3 seconds, just like a wee tab

 

[zouzounaki]

aye, but it’s 1mm tight airflow so a big puff before you inhale it

 

[Deadanddripping]

I wish we were all closer to have a MTL gang meet up to see our favourite builds. I've never even considered vaping and building the way you do.

 

[Crispycritters]

there’s nothing mysterious about it, joules law says that the higher resistance wire will get hotter than the lower resistance wire with the same current. this is true, use a range of gauges of stainless wire of the same number of wraps, put them on a mod and puff them all with the same power setting. the lightest gauge will get hotter than the heaviest gauge.

as for the amount of vapour, the increased temperature will obviously create more vapour which i am sure would offset any difference the gauge/surface area of the wire would make, which i suspect would be negligible anyway with plain round wire in the gauges we are talking about.

And everything you have written is to justify building to the same resistance. A smaller coil that gets hotter may ramp up a bit faster, but it still covers less cotton - and of course more heat being cooled by less liquid soaked cotton will mean the hotter coil will be more prone to cooking juice and localised cotton burnout. Building to the same resistance using different wires WON'T give identical results.

Your quote from Joules Law about higher resistance wire getting hotter at the same current is certainly relevant - but the lower mass and cotton coverage of the smaller higher resistance coil is just as relevant and to suggest it isn't, as it doesn't support your argument, is entertaining... and the OP isn't using a mech where strict adherence to a narrow Resistance margin is essential. A regulated mod will adjust the Volts and Amps automatically to allow you to vape in a wide resistance range in safety - why not take advantage of this?

If you bother to read the original posters follow up, you will discover that after following everybody else's recommendations and ignoring the same resistance doctrine the end result was a better vape.

You can argue you are right until the end of time. But we both know you're just doing a Zou, however, an occasional mini squabble over the colour of piss does brighten up a dull Sunday afternoon.

 

[zouzounaki]

And everything you have written is to justify building to the same resistance. A smaller coil that gets hotter may ramp up a bit faster, but it still covers less cotton - and of course more heat being cooled by less liquid soaked cotton will mean the hotter coil will be more prone to cooking juice and localised cotton burnout. Building to the same resistance using different wires WON'T give identical results.

Your quote from Joules Law about higher resistance wire getting hotter at the same current is certainly relevant - but the lower mass and cotton coverage of the smaller higher resistance coil is just as relevant and to suggest it isn't, as it doesn't support your argument, is entertaining... and the OP isn't using a mech where strict adherence to a narrow Resistance margin is essential. A regulated mod will adjust the Volts and Amps automatically to allow you to vape in a wide resistance range in safety - why not take advantage of this?

If you bother to read the original posters follow up, you will discover that after following everybody else's recommendations and ignoring the same resistance doctrine the end result was a better vape.

You can argue you are right until the end of time. But we both know you're just doing a Zou, however, an occasional mini squabble over the colour of piss does brighten up a dull Sunday afternoon.

i sometimes worry your chakras are misaligned

but aye. he cured it by turning up the power. all i am saying is he could also have cured it by using thinner gauge wire, without having to turn the power up, saving battery life and preserving his leccy.

as i said though i doubt this idea that the specific area of wire touching the coil, lower mass etc. is as important as you think. in fact i think it is bunk. those wee mtl claptons don’t make any more vapour that a regular bit of wire, and an under heated thick bit of wire will create less vapour than an optimally heated thin piece. there are many more variables to consider, and also that the op is using ss so the coils will be spaced. the relationship between the overall width of the coil and the amount of liquid reaching it is more important. imo. therefore, thinner wire, narrower diameter and looser cotton may have saved him turning his power up.

but it all worked out in the end

 

[Deadanddripping]

In fact I didn't turn the power up, I halved the amount of wraps, reducing the contact with the cotton. I had about 9 or 10 wraps of 28 guage. Can't remember if I did 5 or 6 this time and it's much better. Presumably because it heats easier.

 

[Deadanddripping]

It did all work out in the end, but really crispy and rew answered my question and fixed it in half an hour but I still enjoyed the pondering and debate! Luckily I like reading all the apes views and opinions so thanks to all who participate

 

[zouzounaki]

the thread has made me go and dig out the 32 g wire. i’ll make a four wrap coil later and see if there’s more or less vapour than this 9 wrap one makes.

 

[Deadanddripping]

the thread has made me go and dig out the 32 g wire. i’ll make a four wrap coil later and see if there’s more or less vapour than this 9 wrap one makes.

Will you measure the vapour by seeing if it goes a whole 10 seconds?