PPE Acetate Help

[ZT]

Test run a partial success, doing quite a few runs over without warping, the more you do the more the part gets fully heated and that's when warping starts, though you can hand bend it back into shape, I suspect too much of this will ruin the integrity though.

Bleach dipping seemed okay but I don't know how long it needs, I did a sloosh for a few minutes and it seemed fine, I'm going to speak to the care home about it, though care workers in the community won't have the same facilities, speaking to one mobile worker she said all they have been advised is to use wipes, if they visit an infected patient then the visor stays there.

There has to be a better way, bleach would be my preferred option at the moment.



I've seen UV stuff being sold but no idea how effective or practical it is, I don't have anything UV myself but worth a nose online to see if it is useful thanks.

We use it at work for beakers etc - which is where it’s strength lies ... clear things

It has to be able to penetrate all surfaces to be effective.
Ok on clear things and stuff you can turn over

 

[ZT]

Not to rain whatsoever on your parade mate and majorrrr major kudos for what you're doing.

But one question from me personally? Is bleach safe to do so? To have it close to the skin / eyes.

The fumes I mean and the fact I recall watching a friend getting sprayed in the face via a super soaker with bleach.

But I'm not knocking the idea at all! I'm just weary myself personally of cleaning chemicals and extra cautious using them. (But that's me)

(That and Heron Foods near @bil1666 recently making customers use Selgene floor sanitizer as handwash bloody idiots!!!!) But that's a different matter.

Selgiene tho ....
That would do it ....

it’s not just a floor sanitizer - it’s a hard surface anti bacterial and anti virus ...

you can buy it in a spray bottle or a Jerry can you dilute down ...
its also food safe

we have some -

@Vapaneezer Scrooge - do you want us to send you some to test?

 

[Huggett]

Selgiene tho ....
That would do it ....

it’s not just a floor sanitizer - it’s a hard surface anti bacterial and anti virus ...

you can buy it in a spray bottle or a Jerry

Oh for sure, I just mean the Heron foods were giving it customers undiluted as hand sanitizer

Sorry really straying from topic at hand. As ZT said, Selgene diluted down would be an excellent option for sanitisation.

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

Selgiene tho ....
That would do it ....

it’s not just a floor sanitizer - it’s a hard surface anti bacterial and anti virus ...

you can buy it in a spray bottle or a Jerry can you dilute down ...
its also food safe

we have some -

@Vapaneezer Scrooge - do you want us to send you some to test?

Just reading up on it, I think you may have found the ideal solution (pardon the pun), I couldn't spot anything obvious in the data sheet so definitely worth a go and care homes etc. should be able to obtain it (apart from the frikkin eBay scum, 750ml in an auction starting price £14

 

[ZT]

@Vapaneezer Scrooge -just seen this - will this possibly affect what you are doing ?
https://apple.news/A_Pp1wz-GRo2xOFThhQCylw

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

@Vapaneezer Scrooge -just seen this - will this possibly affect what you are doing ?
https://apple.news/A_Pp1wz-GRo2xOFThhQCylw

Good find, thanks @ZT

Yeah it would affect me if I was supplying direct to the NHS, the site with the design stated CE approval was pending.

As it stands and the reason I am supplying locally, care homes and mobile carers have nothing and it's a no brainer to use these or nothing, the mobile carers were going to make those DIY foam and elastic versions with 100gsm acetate so were delighted when I offered these.

In 'peacetime' I suspect they would not get approval for the reasons I've stated with the PLA filament not being microscopically solid, making them harder to sanitise.

One thing I have learned from that article is that it would be a good idea to put in a letter with them explaining that they are not CE approved.

I'm not the best person to write something like this so welcome any advice on how to word it, better still anyone willing to word it for me?
If the new acetate comes with protective film like my old stock, I can laser print stickers to go onto each so a short statement would also be useful.

 

[Crewella]

Good find, thanks @ZT

Yeah it would affect me if I was supplying direct to the NHS, the site with the design stated CE approval was pending.

As it stands and the reason I am supplying locally, care homes and mobile carers have nothing and it's a no brainer to use these or nothing, the mobile carers were going to make those DIY foam and elastic versions with 100gsm acetate so were delighted when I offered these.

In 'peacetime' I suspect they would not get approval for the reasons I've stated with the PLA filament not being microscopically solid, making them harder to sanitise.

One thing I have learned from that article is that it would be a good idea to put in a letter with them explaining that they are not CE approved.

I'm not the best person to write something like this so welcome any advice on how to word it, better still anyone willing to word it for me?
If the new acetate comes with protective film like my old stock, I can laser print stickers to go onto each so a short statement would also be useful.

There may be better offers, but I'm up for the letter if nobody better comes forward.

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

@Vapaneezer Scrooge -just seen this - will this possibly affect what you are doing ?
https://apple.news/A_Pp1wz-GRo2xOFThhQCylw

I found this part interesting:

Similarly, Jason Aspinall from Vale Visors group in Barry, said his team of five have made 280 visors to date and have orders for another 500 for University Hospital Llandough, UHW, and the Royal Gwent, as well as a multitude of doctors' surgeries, undertakers, and pharmacies.​

He said: "Many folk have been using thin acetate, like the stuff used on overhead projectors, thin as paper, completely unsuitable for the face visor.

"The spec calls for 400um or more, which is the spec Vale Visors have been working to, using the approved head band design.

"So while the public making them think they're helping they really do need to understand the practicalities of using a visor with inferior visor part not being fit for purpose.

"The public should be able to help where they can so long as they make the right thing."

Especially the part about the thickness, I have opted for 240 microns which are a whole lot more solid than the normal 100 microns OHP film, my first attempt was using 100 microns and immediately thought 'this isn't good enough' hence my request for 240 microns, the spec may call for more but that is more down to the durability, 240 microns is probably around the limit for this improvised design, the public efforts would benefit from guidance and even support, that article is the first I have seen regarding any specs.

On a brighter note; a record day - just started print No 9 after getting up early

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

Bums - the supplier on eBay have sold out of 240 microns does anyone know of anywhere else reliable to purchase some from?

I'm searching around but any assistance appreciated.

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

I've had to take a punt on a couple of packs of 200 microns I found, not ideal but a whole lot better than 100 microns:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253199721888

There's plenty of dosh in the kitty from kind donations, hopefully panic buyers like myself will have enough until stocks refill