Short fills and long fills to be included in the ban

[Toby iVapour]

to be fair, you can’t buy flavoured fags either.

I doubt there was ever any demand for them otherwise Big T would have done it.

I thought you can get a menthol capsule to add to cigarettes?
(or so I've heard)

Just googling it now, you can also get menthol drops to add to the filter...

There's bound to be multiple workarounds for e-liquid surely...
(until they ban them too!)

 

[Netvaper]

Indeed....they will need to get creative and work with what they are given, which we don't know yet

You seem to be remarkably sanguine about it all, I doubt those whose livelihood depends on it are.

 

[MrDJ]

as nic shots are unflavoured im guessing these wont be affected.

brain working overtime....
so if a ban does happen does this mean food flavourings like for instance from cupcake would also be affected. and if not as these are for cake making could they then start selling pre mixed flavours similar to make one shots for another workaround loophole.

 

[vapervince]

As regular vapers we can only protest and according to what`s reportedly being planned with regard to restrictions and bans, we dont have much clout, the real lobbying power lies with the people who rely on vaping to make a living and I may be reading, watching and listening in the wrong places but if there is a groundswell of protest or contentious argument, I `m not seeing or hearing it, or maybe just not as loudly as I would have expected.

 

[Netvaper]

I thought you can get a menthol capsule to add to cigarettes?
(or so I've heard)

Just googling it now, you can also get menthol drops to add to the filter...

There's bound to be multiple workarounds for e-liquid surely...
(until they ban them too!)

I assume they turned up after they banned menthol fags. In terms of vaping such drops are surely concentrates.

 

[Rickster]

You seem to be remarkably sanguine about it all, I doubt those whose livelihood depends on it are.

They (vendors, manufactures) we, have all been through this before, where there's a will there's a way, sure there will be casualties, there were many following TPD, yet here we are.
Apart from signing a form, there's not much I can do as a consumer, so I don't stress about it.
The people who depend on this mad mental industry for a living have my sympathy though.

 

[andipandi]

to be fair, you can’t buy flavoured fags either.

Press on the arrow bit for menthol

 

[Toby iVapour]

I assume they turned up after they banned menthol fags. In terms of vaping such drops are surely concentrates.

Yes, after the menthol fag ban.

I was merely showing that workarounds can be found in many circumstances, so hopefully will in terms of a flavour ban.

But in the event of a shortfill ban (well, anything larger than 10ml product designed for vaping) which seems likely, I don't see anything other legally abiding businesses simply not selling them, but others selling them by flouting the rules (in a similar way that many vendors disregard the 2ml legal limit on disposables), which will also happen with flavours as well...

 

[Rickster]

Yes, after the menthol fag ban.

I was merely showing that workarounds can be found in many circumstances, so hopefully will in terms of a flavour ban.

But in the event of a shortfill ban (well, anything larger than 10ml product designed for vaping) which seems likely, I don't see anything other legally abiding businesses simply not selling them, but others selling them by flouting the rules (in a similar way that many vendors disregard the 2ml legal limit on disposables), which will also happen with flavours as well...

Yip, a lot of great eliquid was lost following TPD when one man bands had to give up due to costs' laws and whatever....this was a shame, prob this time is a probable rise in the bath tub mixers...some will be good, some not so.

 

[andipandi]

All of this is going to lead to a massive and dangerous black market, liquid with oils in and fuck knows what else. Newbie DIYers using concentrates meant only for home baking and potentially lethal if inhaled. 3 years before I joined potv there was liquid being sold via FB and the like in Eastbourne, someone got hold of it, broke it down, It allegedly contained rat poison, there was a big thing about it locally at the time.

One can adapt this:

Alcohol Prohibition: the legal prevention of the manufacture, sale, and transportation of alcoholic beverages

to

Vape Prohibition: the legal prevention of the manufacture, sale, and transportation of vape products

so if a ban does happen does this mean food flavourings like for instance from cupcake would also be affected.

Nope, ccw have also been rebranded to flavour world, happened a couple of years ago. Vendors like Nomz Nomz, Vapable and even Flavourart might be in trouble though. They would have to rename (in the case of Vapable etc), become a "flavour house" and so on, removing any connection and links to Vaping, that in itself would surely be expensive, many would just shut up shop.