Pubs across UK won’t re-open until Christmas

[ObiWanVaponi]

If I was a landlord I would by now have tipped the barrels down the drain, and claimed the duty back, as it would be rank by then.
If I was in a small pub I would keep the keg stuff for myself, cause you never know when you could get another pint from yourself.

If you'd have chucked all your beer away already you'd have got fuck all. There's very clear guidance set out for disposing of alcohol. You need to wait until a brewery rep can come round and witness it, so Landlords will have to wait until the social distancing rules get lifted and then wait for their turn with the very few reps available. THEN they can apply for the duty relief

https://www.bii.org/news/article/ne...detail&cHash=a24674eb176cf367a8d683f673a998b0

Then of course there's what the pubco's will do. They are a law unto themselves.

 

[Badboybez]

had a few keg showers since that pic was taken

When I worked at a large well known brewery when I first left school one of my mates, and I were given various jobs around the place.
About every two weeks they would put us on "destruction" for a day, this was for all the beer that had been returned from the pubs due to cloudy, off tasting, flat, etc. Mix of barrels of ale, and keg beers, so we had to lift them up, and tip them into a huge tank in the barrel filling hall. When all the beer was in, or the tank was full (hundreds of gallons) we told the guys in accounts, and someone would measure the depth with a dip stick, then open a valve in the tank, and it would all go down the drain. This gave them a reading they could use to calculate how much was in the tank, and claim back they duty on hundreds of gallons.
My mate, and I loved the kegs of lager, imagine this, you have a full keg to get rid of, it's been gassed up at the pub, but sent back.
We unscrew the spear from the keg, that leaves about a 50mm hole at the top, with a considerable amount of gas in the beer.
So pick it up, walk quietly up behind one of the guys on the barrel filling line, lift it about two feet of the floor, and drop it.
The effect is amazing, a 50mm wide jet of beer goes up, hits the ceiling, spreads out like a mushroom cloud after a nuclear bomb is dropped, and everyone in a 15 foot radius gets soaked in lager.

 

[Badboybez]

If you'd have chucked all your beer away already you'd have got fuck all. There's very clear guidance set out for disposing of alcohol. You need to wait until a brewery rep can come round and witness it, so Landlords will have to wait until the social distancing rules get lifted and then wait for their turn with the very few reps available. THEN they can apply for the duty relief

https://www.bii.org/news/article/news/bbpa-releases-full-advice-on-the-destruction-of-out-of-date-beer/?tx_news_pi1[controller]=News&tx_news_pi1[action]=detail&cHash=a24674eb176cf367a8d683f673a998b0

Then of course there's what the pubco's will do. They are a law unto themselves.

You are replying to my post #48 in this thread.

I take it you did not read the very next post I made. #49
A pity really as it explains it somewhat.
But, yes you are correct there are strict rules, about informing HMRC.
I have worked in a major brewery, on a destruction team, and in various pubs & clubs.
You are right that most of it goes back to the brewery, and they claim the duty back, and refund the landlord the landlord with a new barrel / keg, it is simpler that way. But in some small "free houses" the landlord can claim back duty for it direct from HMRC as long as they have records of how much beer that have had to waste.

My post number #49 is below to save you time looking for it.

That is the case, but don't forget that depending on their contract with the supplier (brewery, or wholesale beer supplier) they can return it for destruction by the supplier, or with the HMRC destroy it themselves to claim the duty back.
It may take a while with the current situation, but the reason for this is duty is paid to HMRC when it leaves the brewery, so if it is not sold to the public for consumption the duty can be claimed back, and don't forget duty is the largest perentage of the cost of a pint in a pub.

 

[ObiWanVaponi]

You are replying to my post #48 in this thread.

I take it you did not read the very next post I made. #49
A pity really as it explains it somewhat.
But, yes you are correct there are strict rules, about informing HMRC.
I have worked in a major brewery, on a destruction team, and in various pubs & clubs.
You are right that most of it goes back to the brewery, and they claim the duty back, and refund the landlord the landlord with a new barrel / keg, it is simpler that way. But in some small "free houses" the landlord can claim back duty for it direct from HMRC as long as they have records of how much beer that have had to waste.

My post number #49 is below to save you time looking for it.

I quoted your post that you quoted me in.

Anyway, the fact remains you need to make the claim and THEN, with the blessing of the Brewery or HMRC, destroy the product. Not the other way around.

 

[Mawsley]

If I were a landlord I’d be filling in an insurance claim form after having been attacked by looting monkeys and pirates armed with flaming torches.

You should always keep insurance claims believable.

 

[fil]

The effect is amazing, a 50mm wide jet of beer goes up, hits the ceiling, spreads out like a mushroom cloud after a nuclear bomb is dropped, and everyone in a 15 foot radius gets soaked in lager.

Yikes!!
thankfully the ex soda kegs aka corny kegs i use for the most part are not so dramatic as the gas/beer moves through poppet valved posts , these poppets can however stick open and that is what has drenched me and my beer cellar a fair few times..
think 5mm jet rather than 50mm otherwise spot on..

 

[3dj]

Pubs. I hate the the places. I wish they would all close down forever. The last one I went in (apart from the nice places me and Mrs3dj go to for meals at weekends) I got knocked the fuck out due to me turning a TV off that was bugging me. This guy was big as fuck and didn’t like what I did. All I remember is waking up in hospital a few hours later. I seriously got hurt on this one. This guy was a nut job. I think he lost it. I hate talking about fighting, but never have a go at a man who is 10 inches bigger than you. And I’m 5.11.

 

[Mawsley]

I hate talking about fighting, but never have a go at a man who is 10 inches bigger than you. And I’m 5.11.

I like that you were able to estimate the size of his penis while you were crashing to the floor.

 

[ObiWanVaponi]

I like that you were able to estimate the size of his penis while you were crashing to the floor.

What do you think he hit him with?

 

[Mawsley]

What do you think he hit him with?