RETURN OF THE CLONE WARS (?)

[Crispycritters]

Not being wealthy myself, I totally understand how financial concerns can affect your decisions… It is not my intention to say that no one should ever buy a clone. I’ve bought my share, and there are some thigh-end gear that is priced way out of my league, especially mods

But my point was that there are many of us that can actually afford an authentic rta. If I don’t buy any clones or crap on sale for a couple of months, I can scrape together enough for one of the 24mm rtas below. I’m not sure myself that I’d be willing to spend £200+ on a rta, but £100 doesn’t feel as unreasonable as it once was And I know that Atmizoo and Svoëmesto produce quality gear, it’s a high probability that I’ll like them. My arguments for buying from the manufacturer, you’ll find in the OP. On top of these arguments, you get an excellent bit of kit

Believe it or not, I really enjoy the fact that there are so many different opinions here, but my point and reasoning remain…if you want to enjoy an authentic rta etc that is designed and manufactured by the very people who make these clones possible, it may very well be within your reach

Unfortunately I estimate that 1 out of 5 of the atomisers I have bought over the years stay in my rotation for more than a week or two. Even though I have a pretty good idea of what is likely to work for me, most of them turned out to be mediocre - not actually bad, and when built properly could provide a respectable vape but, at best, in the also ran category.

These are all mainstream budget friendly products so to get one 'good' RDA/RTA its cost me 125 to 150 bones. Do the same thing with high end kit and you can easily quadruple that figure. You'll probably get a well machined product, but a well machined product that sits on a shelf after a week or two is an expensive mediocre product.

I'm not really much of a traditional MTL vaper, don't need a throat hit and detest high nic Freebase - I prefer a loose vape, at least a 1.5mm air-pin and around 20 watts so won't even consider a build deck that relies on trapping wires under tiny screws as I absolutely DON'T find round-wire to give the best vape for my preference so practically every high end MTL atomiser really doesn't appeal to me. Most reviewers are of the traditional low wattage, tight airflow, round-wire, freebase brigade so their opinions and views tend to be of no practical use to me, really all I'll get from their content is to see the deck and hear about the quality of the machining.

During my MTL experimentation period I did buy clones which was lucky as my 'success' rate at finding one I liked was still around 1 in 5 and buying the genuine items would have been a series of costly mistakes.

I would consider buying a high end mod or two, but under no circumstances would I buy an atomiser without trying a clone first.

 

[LordOdin]

Like most Vapers or Hobbyists it sometimes isn't feasible for me to buy authentic gear, i am mainly talking about RBA's in my case as everything else i buy is generally authentic. I swap and change my RBA's all the time with only the odd few making my rotation more than once. I don't and can't see the point of buying an authentic RBA and using it once and it never seeing the light of day again, if i was using something once then selling it on things might be different but i am an hoarder and always keep everything I always keep boxes and anything the item came with like Cotton and Coils, dunno why it's just something i do. I see that some feel the need to spend a lot of money on Authentic Gear and respect and am sometimes jealous of the people that do that. Each to his own i say. As already said you buy what you want, what people think of your purchases is not important. More often than not i am happy with the things i buy.

 

[Deleted member 54254]

You're more of a RDTL guy then.

 

[LordOdin]

You're more of a RDTL guy then.

Me ?. I do RDTL but wouldn't say mostly, my MTL RTA's are my most used gear especially the Ripley, Trio and Arbiter Solo.

 

[VapeforScotland]

My personal opinion is like with most things, if you can afford "high end" gear and are comfortable with paying the money then you do what you want, if you can't afford or don't want to spend a lot of money, if clones work then they work.

 

[LemmysCodPiece]

I haven't read the whole thread, merely skimmed it.

I have been into vaping for year and always steered clear of clones. Last week I bought two clones, from AliExpress, as I genuinely couldn't find the OGs in stock anywhere. They are yet to turn up. They were £10 and £13 delivered, so at those prices I am not too bothered if they are shit.

 

[30deadcats]

I haven't read the whole thread, merely skimmed it.

I have been into vaping for year and always steered clear of clones. Last week I bought two clones, from AliExpress, as I genuinely couldn't find the OGs in stock anywhere. They are yet to turn up. They were £10 and £13 delivered, so at those prices I am not too bothered if they are shit.

I've bought loads of clones from them. Only 1 was absolute shite. 1 was just ok and about 20 have been absolutely fine.

 

[LemmysCodPiece]

I've bought loads of clones from them. Only 1 was absolute shite. 1 was just ok and about 20 have been absolutely fine.

This is what I got from the research I did. The vast majority of people had no issues with the clones they bought.

 

[30deadcats]

This is what I got from the research I did. The vast majority of people had no issues with the clones they bought.

Just received in the post about 10 minutes ago. Ordered 2 weeks ago from Ali express. Fatality clone. Under £20 and the flavour is phenomenal. There IS a place for clones.

 

[andipandi]

Just received in the post about 10 minutes ago. Ordered 2 weeks ago from Ali express. Fatality clone. Under £20 and the flavour is phenomenal. There IS a place for clones. View attachment 345364

I've got two of those, last clones I bought, would've been some time in 2019 I think. The glass sections on mine broke very easily, great vape btw.