living on the streets and covid

[vapesmarter]

I see my thread has gone down the pan

what a pity

I was going into a long ramble about the situation but what's the point I had the NHS spitfire fly over us on Monday what joy perhaps we could bang the pots and pans again but for the homeless, because no one gives a fuck about each other humankind destroys itself that's the nature of it from homeless to people to COVID I haven't seen any great coming together over the last 5 months just lots of nastiness

 

[andipandi]

I was going into a long ramble about the situation but what's the point I had the NHS spitfire fly over us on Monday what joy perhaps we could bang the pots and pans again but for the homeless, because no one gives a fuck about each other humankind destroys itself that's the nature of it from homeless to people to COVID I haven't seen any great coming together over the last 5 months just lots of nastiness

Many people do care about each other, i see it mostly everyday.

 

[Simon G]

I see my thread has gone down the pan

You shouldn't feel that way, it sparked a conversation.... an important conversation.

..... and nothing will ever change unless people have those conversations.

I don't think covid was ever going to bring people together, the lockdown and social distancing has made people feel more alone then ever. It's also increased anxiety and financial worry for almost everyone.

More people than ever are going to be one missed rent payment away from being homeless themselves.

I think there's a lot of people in self preservation mode, too worried about there own situation and direct family and friends to be giving much thought to others. That's sad but somewhat understandable.

Homelessness is a massively complex issue, when I left school you could just pick up the local paper and get yourself a flat, they were plentiful and cheap to rent and it was a door open to almost anyone even if you were low paid or not working. If you were working a half decent job, house prices we low enough for people to buy.

Then you have the issue of 'buy to let' and those landlords only renting to 'the right' people.

... I think housing in a more general sense is more difficult for everyone these days regardless of their situation.

 

[andipandi]

More people than ever are going to be one missed rent payment away from being homeless themselves.

Yep, plus the so called "No fault" section 21 evictions, which still exist, with landlords cashing in on the stamp duty holiday.


https://www.theguardian.com/society...1930s-style-homelessness-as-eviction-ban-ends

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-in-england-and-wales-could-cause-covid-surge

I know of a person extremely well off, absolutely loaded tbh, just saved themselves £12,500 stamp duty, buying a place to retire to, money goes to money, grinning like a Cheshire cat, greed all over that persons face, with no thoughts for others. I also know lots of people who cant afford to participate in the Eat Out To Help Out scheme, or buy the specifically required, logoed school uniforms, uniforms at super inflated prices because the school Academy owners, own an american clothes chain.

 

[zouzounaki]

a consequence of increasingly skewed and divisive policy decisions against the poor starting with thatcher. the country should be ashamed of itself.

 

[andipandi]

a consequence of increasingly skewed and divisive policy decisions against the poor starting with thatcher. the country should be ashamed of itself.

The sale of council homes and the abolition of the Fair Rent System, (1980 and 1988 Housing acts), that is majorly why we are where we are viz renting and the homeless problem. If I saw (and predicted) the problems then as a young person, in both 80 and 88, why didn't the politicians and why didn't Labour do something about it. They had the chance, even if the legislation and laws they made, would no doubt have been abolished by the Coalition and Tory Governments that followed. At least I could have said and known that they had tried to do something. As for the "Affordable housing" tag "80% of private market rents", what an ffing sick joke that is.

 

[zouzounaki]

The sale of council homes and the abolition of the Fair Rent System, (1980 and 1988 Housing acts), that is majorly why we are where we are viz renting and the homeless problem. If I saw (and predicted) the problems then as a young person, in both 80 and 88, why didn't the politicians and why didn't Labour do something about it. They had the chance, even if the legislation and laws they made, would no doubt have been abolished by the Coalition and Tory Governments that followed. At least I could have said and known that they had tried to do something. As for the "Affordable housing" tag "80% of private market rents", what an ffing sick joke that is.

blair, i suppose.

the right to buy scheme was largely ideological from a few different angles. break working class solidarity and introduce an us and them atmosphere, make people think they’ve climbed the ladder and are property owners (classless society shite), introduce precarity (if you don’t make mortgage payments you get repossessed and evicted etc) as an incentive against industrial action etc. bastards. nye bevan was right.

 

[Jd_]

Havent u heard? There are no homeless ppl anymore. There are just 'unhoused' ppl

 

[Phat Barstood]

Mate.

For a few teenage years I used to be abused by my clarinet teacher in my parents bedroom, leading up to the time he raped me. I'm must have been a shit hot piece of ass because I also got raped in a clothes shop changing room when I was 16 by another paedophile. This sexual abuse drove me on a downward spiral of aggression, self hatred and powered my self destruction through anything and everything.

Shortly after that I was homeless for a couple of years, getting pissed on, beaten, and frequently robbed by drunk cunts who probably saw me as nothing more than "a no mark junky". The sort of cunts who'd probably happily wrap themselves in flags and national pride.

Everybody - every single person - I knew on the streets had similar tales of sexual or physical abuse, or had another form of psychological trauma. As the 80s rolled on we were joined by the economically disenfranchised. It's cold, hard and lonely out there. It's fucking hard. With each passing day, with each freezing night your mind deteriorates - no matter how strong a person you were, you crumble. You do things you'd never dream of doing just to get some food, some warmth, some sense of normality - something to block out the rage and pain.

Shooting a gun doesn't make anyone a better person than anybody else. The bravery of state sanctioned murder means they should be valued over the prepubescent girl who got passed around her uncles? The young lad who spent every day being beaten shitless by his alcoholic father? Nah. Not a fucking hope.

No one lives on the street because they chose that way of life. They spiralled there through lack of love, hope and/or support. And if people write them off as "a no mark junky" then they're pretty much fucked.

I'm not having a pop at you, I accept that most fail to understand the realities of why people are homeless or why they do the things they do once there. This is more a plea to ask you to check yourself and just ponder on it for a bit.

I escaped because I received strong support and unconditional love. I made their lives hell over and over - but in the end they got me into college, a career and my own house. I escaped because people saw the potential for me to grow with opportunities, opportunities that thanks to cuts to the mental health service, social services, and council homes just doesn't exist to any sane level any longer.

That "no mark junky" could one day own a business, fix your car, or be an MP. Give them all a chance, eh?

Oh mate that's fecking terrible,the Clarinet you say...

 

[Phat Barstood]

Thanks, I've never been called a "state sanctioned murderer " before. That's a new one to me. [emoji33] [emoji23]

I'm guessing only one state sanctioned you,so it's only half bad...lol