UK Incremental Smoking Ban (Tobacco & Vapes Bill) Starts Journey Into Law

[Rickster]

But I don't understand the cash angle...

Gradually prohibiting whole generations from smoking will push more people towards the black market.
And while they will be taxing vapes (so will gain cash from that), it looks like they will probably ban all sweet/fruit flavours, thereby creating a huge (and non-taxable) black market in vape liquid...

The cash angle is big pharma and big tobacco loosing cash, they are as you know very powerful across the globe pensions, stocks n shares, tax n shit....n along comes blue slush....nah fk that, lets put a stop to that.
The UK is small and they will easily make up monies from elsewhere if it comes to that .....New Zealand shat the nest and backtracked, Australia is wobbling...... why... the power of big business.
The UK will shit the nest also, to some extent that will please big pharma n big tobacco, but only once vaping has been well restricted. and their coffers are restored.
The black market won't be as big as some may think, a fly in the ointment as far as they will be concerned and a blind eye will be turned.

 

[zouzounaki]

The cash angle is big pharma and big tobacco loosing cash, they are as you know very powerful across the globe pensions, stocks n shares, tax n shit....n along comes blue slush....nah fk that, lets put a stop to that.
The UK is small and they will easily make up monies from elsewhere if it comes to that .....New Zealand shat the nest and backtracked, Australia is wobbling...... why... the power of big business.
The UK will shit the nest also, to some extent that will please big pharma n big tobacco, but only once vaping has been well restricted. and their coffers are restored.
The black market won't be as big as some may think, a fly in the ointment as far as they will be concerned and a blind eye will be turned.

aye but they are losing money either way. the government plans to phase out fags until they are no legal to buy at all, for anybody. whether it actually happens or gets bunked in a couple of years.

 

[snuusser]

it’s interesting that they don’t want people vaping specifically. they don’t seem to object to nicorette gum and suchlike. or even that rotten nicotine spray you can buy.

I think people are gonna order vapes anyway from different country... Gov just gonna lose money. It has happened before in some countries that have banned vapes.

 

[Toby iVapour]

I think people are gonna order vapes anyway from different country... Gov just gonna lose money. It has happened before in some countries that have banned vapes.

Interesting thought, but I'm not sure how doable or practical that would be...

Let's say that Bloo Slushie juice is banned in this country, you would have thought it would be banned to import as well.

Many other countries have already, or are planning on, more vape restrictions, and cross-border sales are getting more problematic as well.
We don't sell many vapes to other countries anymore, and some stuff gets sent back. e.g. recently we sent some some flavour concentrate (no nicotine, and not necessarily for vaping) to the Czech Republic, and customs wouldn't let it through, and it got sent back. And the reason it is blocked isn't always stamped with "Interdit" either - it can frequently be marked with some spurious reason (like "non réclamé").

One thing seems for certain, and that's that come Oct 2026, any imported e-liquid, if allowed through, will have vape excise duty added (on top of other taxes & charges).

 

[dansus]

Tobacco and Vapes Bill​

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