As another battery explodes in a pocket-who do you blame?

[philTBA]

I think it is just the wraps i need to worry about tbh. How often do you have to do that?? Is it hard work or relatively easy?

As a rule, not that often. The wrap is just heat shrink tube designed for that purpose, you'll find vids on u tube.

 

[stephenjallsop]

Cool its allready on its way but ill deffo have a good research. Make sure i dont become one of these headlines aha.

 

[mannikon]

Cool its allready on its way but ill deffo have a good research. Make sure i dont become one of these headlines aha.

As Phil said, rewrapping cells should not be needed very often. The more care you take handling cells, the longer everything will last - the cells, their wraps, your face ...

Srsly, examine the cells before and after they go in your mod, if they come out a bit ragged might be time to get a better mod! Careful in the charger too, some chargers are tough on cell wraps.
Any doubts about wrap put the cell aside until you can get it rewrapped.
Remember the wraps are basic because these cells we use are not designed to be handled, they're designed & manufactured for use in power packs in other devices.

 

[pete146]

Basic battery safety is nothing complicated, it's just common sense. 18650s are high drain, high amp cells, and should be treated as such.

I agree - BUT, how many people will have bought an ecig and don't know what 'High Drain' or 'High Amp' even means? Many people won't search the internet like the community here has done - they will call into a vape shop and say 'I'm thinking of quitting smoking' - then they'll do whatever they were told to do in the shop.

Before I started vaping, I had absolutely no idea that carrying say some AA batteries in my pocket was a bad idea. I'm reasonably smart I like to think, and I research online a LOT. However if I was taking my digital camera out for the day I wouldn't have even considered that I needed to research the battery storage - I had no idea that there was anything to research! When people buy a mobile phone, I doubt that they think they need to know anything about the battery - they assume that it will just work and be safe!

I know people who carry spare camera batteries, phone batteries etc around with them - they probably have no clue that they can explode! To many people it's a sealed unit that is fine to carry around.

 

[ianleeds]

I personally think that anyone buying a new mod which requires separate batteries or just buying lithium batteries on their own should be given a battery safety leaflet either from the B & M shop or purchased from a UK vendor over the internet.
This should be in a simple, easy to read format that anyone can understand.
This could be used to placate somewhat the anti-ecig brigade and show that the industry is responsible and informative in regard to heath and safety.
Remember when we were kids prior to bonfire night ? We called in the corner shop without our parents and bought the largest bangers and rockets we could afford.
Every year, there were safety warnings on the TV accompanied with disturbing images yet post-bonfire night the newspapers were full of pictures of badly burnt children (and a good number of adults.)
Then the government stepped in. Fiireworks could only be sold to over 18's and every box of fireworks you buy comes with a 'firework code' leaflet.
So, we have the over 18 legislation with vape gear......now let's include a safety leaflet with batteries...before we are forced to do so by legislation.

 

[Ben fogstar]

I've read through the thread, and I agree with all of you. Feel really bad for the guys leg.

I'll have a designer work on some safety cards today. And I'll supply them with all batteries shipped out in the future @mannikon suggested this to me the other day, I'll make it a priority.

 

[Harry]

I've read through the thread, and I agree with all of you. Feel really bad for the guys leg.

I'll have a designer work on some safety cards today. And I'll supply them with all batteries shipped out in the future @mannikon suggested this to me the other day, I'll make it a priority.

Love this idea. I often worry that people are buying these batteries without knowing fully how to prevent them from venting/exploding. Everything from Amp Ratings to storage to carrying can be a lot to take in and many people clearly overlook it all.

 

[EthelKing]

I think people need to understand that the + and - poles on lithium batteries are not just top and bottom, but about 5mm apart at the top end too. Hence the very important (and very insignificant looking) insulation ring around the positive pole at the top end of batteries.

As consumers we are used to "normal" batteries and assume that all batteries are made equal. I think the warning cards would be a brilliant thing at PoS.

 

[tasteslikefire]

As consumers we are used to "normal" batteries and assume that all batteries are made equal.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. We're virtually saturated with warnings on even the most mundane products and it's really not helpful. After poking around on here it quickly became apparent 18650's and the like are very different beasts to your AA's and actually need you to take them seriously. Calling it battery safety might actually be the wrong approach as it tends to deal with edge cases. Calling it management might make people think differently about it.

 

[tommywho5150]

I think any warning leaflets should be mainly regarding safe storage and carrying. Most accidents are caused by hard shorts rather than low builds and most hard shorts usually occur due to idiots carrying them loose in their pockets or continuing to use them when the wrap or insulator is damaged.