Disposable Vapes To Be Banned

[Rickster]

disposable fish attractants?

Fish like gummy bears

 

[Rickster]

i doubt it though @Rickster . i reckon they wouldn’t want to fall foul of the law.

Were simply going from some of them being illegal to all of them being illegal....they couldn't stop the wee drop illegal ones the noo....it will be worse Im tellin ye

 

[Toby iVapour]

Creating a smokefree generation and tackling youth vaping consultation: government response
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...youth-vaping-consultation-government-response

Analysis of the government response from Christopher Snowdon here -
How to rig a public consultation
A master class from the Department of Health
https://snowdon.substack.com/p/how-to-rig-a-public-consultation

Having rigged the consultation in this way, the Department of Health concludes…
"The feedback from the consultation shows support for policies to regulate vape flavours, point of sale displays, and packaging and product presentation."
But does it? From the limited data that has been published, there is no way of knowing how many respondents supported any change to the regulation of point of sale displays, packaging and product presentation, and the majority opposed regulation of vape flavours.

 

[Mitz]

Creating a smokefree generation and tackling youth vaping consultation: government response
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...youth-vaping-consultation-government-response

Analysis of the government response from Christopher Snowdon here -
How to rig a public consultation
A master class from the Department of Health
https://snowdon.substack.com/p/how-to-rig-a-public-consultation

Pretty ridiculous.

Paraphrasing as I really can't be arsed to go through all that again to find it.


"Do you think we should increase the cost of vaping?"

Majority says no.

"Well the government thinks we should."

So why bother asking then?

 

[zouzounaki]

Were simply going from some of them being illegal to all of them being illegal....they couldn't stop the wee drop illegal ones the noo....it will be worse Im tellin ye

it will depend on the penalties. it seems most of the ones youngsters are puffing are coming from paper shops etc. whether it’s unscrupulous shopkeepers or older weans buying them and selling them on to the youngsters. i cannae see organised di2po2abke gangs becoming a thing. cutting about on bikes with deliveroo drivers as decoys. the stakes are no high enough. the teenies will just move on to something else, maybe illicit pod devices or squonkers.

 

[Toby iVapour]

A couple of other things I am noticing here, is pretty much all the rhetoric today about banning disposables is to "protect the children", which is completely deluded...
Mention of the environmental issue seems to have largely avoided...

Check out Keir Starmer here -



Think of the children.. then bleats on about the Tories having a free vote (like that's a bad thing?).. and then about the Labour party being the grown-up in the room, and acting in the national interest... (fucktard)



Sunak, similarly engages straight off with the children angle.. then after the disposables lecture (children!) goes on to the generational smoking ban...
But why does he not work out the simple equation -
Restricting vapes in any form = more smoking

 

[Richard Winter]

A couple of other things I am noticing here, is pretty much all the rhetoric today about banning disposables is to "protect the children", which is completely deluded...
Mention of the environmental issue seems to have largely avoided...

Check out Keir Starmer here -



Think of the children.. then bleats on about the Tories having a free vote (like that's a bad thing?).. and then about the Labour party being the grown-up in the room, and acting in the national interest... (fucktard)



Sunak, similarly engages straight off with the children angle.. then after the disposables lecture (children!) goes on to the generational smoking ban...
But why does he not work out the simple equation -
Restricting vapes in any form = more smoking

He like all the others think that saying PROTECT THE CHILDREN makes any decisions they make legit.

 

[zouzounaki]

A couple of other things I am noticing here, is pretty much all the rhetoric today about banning disposables is to "protect the children", which is completely deluded...
Mention of the environmental issue seems to have largely avoided...

Check out Keir Starmer here -



Think of the children.. then bleats on about the Tories having a free vote (like that's a bad thing?).. and then about the Labour party being the grown-up in the room, and acting in the national interest... (fucktard)



Sunak, similarly engages straight off with the children angle.. then after the disposables lecture (children!) goes on to the generational smoking ban...
But why does he not work out the simple equation -
Restricting vapes in any form = more smoking

it would always be the method of attack. we used to debate about it on here in relation to cartoon liquid bottle graphics. turns out that became a moot point when some smart arse invented the lost mary.

 

[Toby iVapour]

.. the teenies will just move on to something else, maybe illicit pod devices or squonkers.

That was something else I was gonna mention (below)...

More commentary about the disposables ban -
Banning disposable e-cigarettes won’t stop kids vaping
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/banning-disposable-e-cigarettes-wont-stop-kids-vaping/

Supporters of a ban on disposable vapes will argue that adults who use these products can simply switch to refillables which are better for the environment and cheaper in the long run. Many of them will doubtless do that. A study published last week noted that ‘disposable brands have already launched refillable versions with similar branding and flavours, which are sold for ∼£8.’ But if adults respond to the ban by buying cheap refillables, what is to stop children doing the same?

(alternative link if the paywall blocks you - https://archive.is/pDufb)

 

[Richard Winter]

That was something else I was gonna mention (below)...

More commentary about the disposables ban -
Banning disposable e-cigarettes won’t stop kids vaping
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/banning-disposable-e-cigarettes-wont-stop-kids-vaping/

(alternative link if the paywall blocks you - https://archive.is/pDufb)

Unfortunately vaping is going to take a massive hit in the future. We all know when disposables are banned the "kids" will move onto small closed system pod devices. The same shite will happen and those devices will come under the firing line.
It's a slippery slope!