Vaping To Be Taxed

[MarylinC37]

Plain VG or PG can't be taxed (surely) because it has many uses.

Agreed - unless they target companies who market it for use to vapers but that should be a simple workaround for most DIYers. That'll be the next thing. Figuring out all the workarounds to hopefully minimise the effect of the new tax.

 

[Toby iVapour]

Vaping Products Duty Consultation response -

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/672263b43ce5634f5f6ef582/Vaping_Products_Duty_consultation_response.pdf

There seems to be a contradiction here, between -

2.29 Rules covering liability to duty on vaping products will operate similarly to rules covering other excise duties. Vaping products that fall within scope will become chargeable with excise duty at the point of their manufacture in, or importation into, the UK.

2.30 Vaping products will be considered ‘manufactured’ at the point the final product is made. In many cases this will be when vaping liquid has been composed from its ingredients. For example, for a typical liquid, once propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, flavourings and, if relevant, nicotine are combined. This would be the point at which products are charged with duty.

and -

2.33 All vaping products will be within the scope of the duty including those produced at home from base ingredients, such as propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, flavourings and nicotine.

So how will DIY products fall "within the scope of the duty" when they "will become chargeable with excise duty at the point of their manufacture" and "will be considered 'manufactured' at the point the final [vape] product is made"?

How will that affect the sale of PG, VG, and flavourings that will presumably be used for DIY?
Would vendors be allowed to sell PG, VG, and flavourings absolutely fine, but the onus for excise duty would then be on the customer, once they had made the finished vape product?

 

[MarylinC37]

So the individual ingredients - which can't be vaped at that point - won't be liable for Vape Duty until I mix them up. Oh well - in that case I just have to remember to dutifully trott round to the tax office every time I mix up a batch and hand over the cash. I think I can remember that?

 

[Toby iVapour]

So the individual ingredients - which can't be vaped at that point - won't be liable for Vape Duty until I mix them up. Oh well - in that case I just have to remember to dutifully trott round to the tax office every time I mix up a batch and hand over the cash. I think I can remember that?

It's a fucking joke, if that's the case.. what a clusterfuck...

 

[vapesmarter]

just from google below is the use for vg

"Vegetable glycerin has many uses, including in food, cosmetics, and pharmaceuticals:

• Food
  A sweetener and preservative that helps mix oil and water-based ingredients. It can also prevent ice crystals from forming in frozen foods.
  
  
• Cosmetics
  A humectant and emollient that attracts and retains moisture in the skin and hair. It's often used in creams, lotions, soaps, conditioners, and shampoos. Vegetable glycerin is also an alcohol substitute in cosmetics, making it a good option for people with sensitive skin.
  
  
• • Pharmaceuticals
    A lubricant and humectant used in cough syrups, ointments, expectorants, anaesthetics, and lozenges. It's also included in capsules for drugs.
    
    
  • Other uses
    A stabilizer in homemade beauty products to help extend their life. It can also be added to acrylic paint. "
    
    
    
    

 

[vapesmarter]

but nicotine in 1litre bottles that's a whole different ball game however £65 for 1 litre so between now and 2 years time say you buy 4litres that should last you a long long time 10 plus years if you decant it into 250mil bottles and pop it in the freezer

 

[dansus]

Unless you're planning on making it, declaring it and selling it to yourself ....you'll be fine

Duty on 5L is £1100..

 

[MarylinC37]

Duty on 5L is £1100..

Plus VAT which equals £1,320 added to the price for every 5L of vape juice.
Next to precious metals and gems vape liquid has to be on the list now of the most expensive substances you can buy.

 

[andipandi]

3.4 HMRC are also exploring options to limit illicit production of vaping liquids by placing controls on the supply of nicotine. Such controls may help prevent nicotine solutions used in the manufacture of vaping products from being obtained by those seeking to commit tax fraud by producing products in premises which are not approved by HMRC.


Is it not possible that that could include banning unflavoured nicotine (shots) being sold to the public, if diying is eventually classed as being illicit production?

 

[Netvaper]

I can only laugh at the idea they can police folk making their own juice at home when they can't even manage to police underage vape sales.